I've studied Persian, Arabic, Urdu and French in a university setting. I wish we had duolingo for all of those when I was studying!!! Not enough! I have my car radio permanently tuned in to the local Spanish station and I was watching about 30 minutes of TV shows every day for a few months which helped tremendously! I need to get back into that habit. Then I speak whenever possible, but I need to get into a daily habit there as well. Thank you! I am an expat living in Spain so I have all the access I need to practice and I was hoping duoling was going to give me that "foot in he door" I needed to get started.
Your post here has answered a question I had only asked in my head. Lingot for you friend. That's awesome, I'm jealous! I would say it will definitely help you get your foot in the door, living in Spain you'll be at a huge advantage obviously. I think if you crank through the tree you can get most of the feel for basic grammar and word order, etc. Then when you speak with the locals you can focus more on solidifying your vocabulary and getting quick enough to process Spanish in "real time". Best of luck to you! Thanks mbalavi. I am new to Duolingo.
I enjoyed the read. Did doing the reverse tree really help? It does help a lot! I would say hold off until you're completing your first tree though. Keep drilling until it starts to feel too easy! Then it's time to start the reverse :. Wendi, click on the language icon up on top bar next to your user icon and pick the "add new course" option. Then you need to select the "I speak Spanish" option.
Then click on the English course and I think you need to click again "ir a este curso" or something like that. Then you're enrolled in the English course for Spanish speakers! All your menu options and instructions etc in Duo will switch to Spanish. I'm on mobile right now so I'm explaining by memory, if I'm missing anything and you get stuck, let me know and I'll go over it more clearly tomorrow!
PS you can also "ladder" ie take a new language but for Spanish speakers, then learn that new language but with Spanish instructions! I agree that you finish the first tree then do the reverse tree. Going back and forth is helpful although adds more time to my studying, which has been hard. I laddered from English to Spanish to French. Getting away entirely from my native language forces me to think in Spanish and French.
Reading in Spanish is becoming enjoyable as I pick up vocabulary and grammar. I don't watch enough television in Spanish. Content translated into Spanish is good because it won't be spoken too fast. I'm thinking of laddering to French soon actually :! Did you skip the French for English speakers course entirely?
I've only spent a few hours with French for English. I managed to test over the first set of lessons.
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Spanish and French grammar are more similar to each other than either is to English. With your level 25 Spanish, you should definitely learn French from Spanish. I was going to do French for English speakers, but you've convinced me to just go straight to the ladder! I like the idea of not "wasting" the opportunity to keep using Spanish as well!
Great assessment. I've been doing Duolingo and taking an in-person class after about 15 years away from HS Spanish as well and I agree with your findings. And making progress on the reverse tree I see! Have fun, and try the immersion in the reverse tree for a humbling experience it was for me at least! I finished the reverse tree a few weeks back.
Have you found SpanishListening. It's a collection of native speakers speaking for about a minute on a given topic, with comprehension and vocab quizzes afterwards. Super useful. I haven't used that site before, I need to check it out! It would be cool if they had special drills for when or not to use subjunctive and then simple past vs. Then again, there is the approach of just communicating with people, you can make those mistakes and they'll still fully understand you.
Sometimes getting perfectionist about those kind of things can get in the way of going out there and using your language skills!
That's one major problem I had with language study in the academic setting. Luckily, what Duolingo lacks, the rest of the internet offers. I've been saving interesting-looking resources to my Pinterest. It's really great to hear from a credible person who has mastered both, the normal tree and the reverse one. So thank you for the information, it really helped. Do you think it would be better if people learning Spanish on Duolingo enroll in Spanish learning centers in their countries? I was wondering that it would be hard to assess my current Spanish level as I know a lot of definitions and sentences but I'm terrible when it comes to pulling in and out of a conversation.
If time and money are major factors for you, I honestly think you're better off with Duolingo-- as long as you are realistic and really put the time into it. If you put a good 30min to an hour into it every day; really drilling and going over stuff you get wrong, you'll make more progress in 6 months than you probably would with two years of formal classes. Then if you want to speak, you need to find some native speakers either locals if you live in an area with Spanish speakers or online if not-- I haven't really set up anything formal online, but it seems like there are a lot of Spanish speakers that are actively looking to exchange Spanish conversation for English conversation.
I found my Spanish teacher on vocabuflash. She is amazing and very reasonable when it comes to cost. Duo is a very good tool to get a newbie started. I'd say if you're new to a language, starting on Duo is better than taking a school course. You start saying sentences right away without getting overwhelmed by tons of vocab and grammar rules.
Thanks for your assessment. I will most definitely try the reverse tree once I complete the regular one. It will seem trivial at first, but power through and once you get past the early lessons I'm sure you will see the value in it. Best of luck!
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Excellent list!!! I spent a lot of time doing other exercises and talking with Spanish speakers in other countries. I also have a Spanish teacher. Any day I don't spend just a few minutes, I lose something! Well said and believe me I understand the importance of finding actual Spanish speaking people to communicate with. What I love about Duolingo is that it takes you to a level from which you can direct yourself. You have easily enough knowledge of your target language to have a simple conversation with someone, and ask them questions about grammar and vocabulary to learn more.
The only tree I've completed is French, but when I lived in Cambodia I was able to socialize at French speaking parties quite easily, and then ask the French friends I made to correct my mistakes. I guess u might be right. I think I came across too negative in some of my comments; that was not my intent at all.
I just want beginners to have a realistic idea of what this tool will do for them. I think as beginners we tend to overlook how much effort it really takes to be "fluent". Duolingo will give you the building blocks; and it does so in the most efficient way of the many, many options that I've personally come into contact with. I don't think there's a better way to go from "absolute beginner" to "intermediate" out there.
My point was that it's going to take more work to get from where Duolingo leaves off to obtaining "fluency" and especially for some goals listening comprehension, speaking, etc.
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Nothing replaces actual native speakers and consuming content that was prepared for native speakers. I'd say that's around "C1" or so on the "European framework" for people that are fans of that model. I am almost finished with my English to Spanish tree, and I've also started, in the last couple of months to take Spanish beginner lessons in a small class setting. I had an "aha moment" as I walked out of my class a couple of days ago.
Duolingo is very organic. It teaches us to speak the way a child learns to talk.
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